Every SaaS Company’s Nightmare- Channels!

2010 March 3
by Justin Pirie

Regular readers know that I think channels in SaaS are essential- but they’re very hard to get right. Too often I see people with a product that isn’t selling well on the web say “oh, we’re going to sell it through the channel“.

They’re in for a massive wake up call- don’t let that happen to you!

I wanted to kick start a discussion about channels in SaaS- so here is my stab at it- comments please!

#1 – Your primary channel is the web- If you can’t sell it on the web, you shouldn’t be in SaaS (or it’s not SaaS).

All the big guys do it well- so should you. Salesforce power some of the biggest companies on the earth and they have great online marketing. It’s not their only marketing, but it is the cornerstone they build from. Where do potential customers first look when they hear of you?

OK, the 800lb gorillas are bad examples as they burnt through a whole heap of cash acquiring customers which most of us don’t have the luxury of doing. But the reality remains that we need to acquire customers efficiently otherwise the Customer Acquisition Costs (CAC) are going to be way out- fine for the gorillas, but not for the rest of us…

It’s also fine to realise you’re not in SaaS but selling subscription software- I came to this realisation when selling application virtualisation while at Endeavors Technology. Joel York articulated it really well:

In previous posts I’ve claimed that the path to differentiation in SaaS is to be a true Internet-play, not just a low TCO client-server application shoved through a browser.

You shouldn’t confuse SaaS with low TCO software of any type, because if isn’t clearly differentiated you’ll have a nightmare acquiring customers, especially on the web. Finding it hard to sell on the web is your early warning that something is wrong. Stop here and fix the issues before trying channels.

#2 If you can’t sell it on the web, how can you expect the channel to sell it?

This strikes at the heart of the issue- if you can’t market it, how on earth do you expect the channel to??? The channel is a blunt instrument and relies on the vendors marketing and sales experience to sell it to their customers- if you haven’t got many sales- how can you pass on that experience?

Mark Leslie had an ethos at Veritas of  ”Nail it before you scale it”. Taking the channel on too early is trying to scale it before you’ve nailed it. Even worse, all the valuable information garnered from potential customers is way down in the channel instead of being in the CEO’s head.

Hiring really web savvy marketers early on will help this process enormously and enable you to get out of this hole quickly. When I say really web savvy, I mean people who think like e-commerce marketers, A/B testing their way to fantastic conversions.

OK, you’ve figured out how to sell on the web and your CAC is in control, i.e. less than one year’s revenue. What next?

#3 Channels rely on Market Pull- You Sell, They Deliver.

Yes- you’re reading that right. Mark Suster articulates:

2. You still need to sell yourself, your channel partners fulfill the order.  What?  That’s crazy?  Then what’s the point of having them?  Well, I will tell you first off that in any sales channel relationship you need to sell the product before your partner does.  If you have a hard time selling they will have a harder time.  Channel partners will put the effort into training their people, developing sales collateral, bonusing their reps and moving other products off of their price list only when they know it’s dead easy to sell your product.

Over time, if you’re both successful, you’ll have to do less selling, but channel management is no cinch either.

If they don’t add any value apart from sales, you need to think really carefully about why you want them as a channel.

This strikes at the heart of the issue.

In software we’re all used to having to have a channel. We needed people to crawl under desks, install software and fix it when it went wrong. That’s no longer the case in SaaS and the channel is being dis-intermediated, which is why when you’re looking at channels you need to think about channel partners who add value around the product, not just install it.

#4 Think outside the VAR’s: non-traditional channels is where it’s at.

You need to target potential channel partners where your product will help them add value to their business and preferably to their customers too. Lincoln posted:

SaaS vendors need to stop thinking like software companies, and, when it comes to distribution, think more like they are part of a supply chain. The intermediary might “sell” the product to the end-customer, but the SaaS vendor still controls their use of the system. What can the SaaS vendor do to help the intermediary help the end-customer? Can the SaaS vendor help the intermediary make more money, beyond simply selling their solution to the end-customer?

I’m working with several SaaS vendors where their SaaS offering helps their channel deliver better service to their end customers, giving them a competitive advantage and enabling the channel to deliver additional and recurring services, none of which they could do before. That’s the incentive for the channel- not a quick buck.

Once it’s integrated into the methodology of the channel, it get’s rolled out to customers on new projects and creates new opportunities with existing customers.

Bonus #5 Compensate anyone who’s willing to sell your product- especially Customers.

Sound obvious? There aren’t many people willing to do it though without signing up for a “partner program” or some crap like that.

In fact, it makes your customers feel special if they’re rewarded for bringing new people to the tribe. It validates that action economically. You’ve got to make sure everyone’s interests are aligned, i.e. they get paid when you get paid.

Remember, this game is about lowering CAC so you can scale profitably- giving 10-20% away to delight existing customers is miles better than giving 65% margin to a traditional channel. FreeAgent does this really well, as covered in TWIS#15.

Back to Mark Suster to finish:

In summary I say that channels can be the lifeblood of startups.  In a world where we all raise less money we need to find more capital efficient ways of going to market.  But 80% of startups fail the channel test.  They understand how to ink the deal but not what makes their channel partner tick.  They end up being penny wise, pound foolish.  They blame their partners for not selling better rather than recognize the channel parter for what it is.

And I promise you.  If you start to make your channel partner successful – it will pay huge dividends when your business is ready to seriously hit that “j curve” you promised your investors.

Any thoughts, questions, abuse???

  • For an early stage enterprise SaaS company starting their channel strat early is important to build up sales and marketing capacity and insight into customer needs and value proposition.

    That's assuming that partnering with one or two companies early on can be called starting your channel strat. I think it can as it gives you the experience of working with partners, their expectations, necessary processes and responsibilities.

    And we partner with companies who are the trusted advisors of the clients. Accountants and lawyers in our case. As so many aspects of doing business is changing due to increased regulations (E.g. climate change) and better use of technology in typical business processes (E.g. RFID) businesses purchasing SaaS solutions in these spaces require the inclusion of prof services simply because they don't have the expertise in-house.
  • Good points Chris. I think the key to success here is going in with eyes open and armed with SaaS best practices. We're not in the software business anymore!
  • stevenforth
    I think Justin is dead on in these comments and they mirror our own experience at LeveragePoint. Of course mschvimmer is also correct, the lead is generated from the web but the sale is closed personnally. The comment by Michael Dunham about servies and SaaS being a good match also mirrors our experience, but with a twist. We believe in using our SaaS application as a channel to deliver services - the services flow through the application rather than being wrapped around it. In our case this means that service providers that build customer value models or who provide the data that drives them do so through our SaaS application. I feel that in the long-term this is the most powerful model.
  • Yes and it's non-traditional channels that are benefiting most from that approach, not the VAR's and SI's who traditionally installed, migrated, customised and maintained. That value is disappearing and new channel partners who benefit from the core value of your product will help SaaS vendors win big.
  • Kent Henderson
    Yep, SaaS is tough. Yep, building it thru the channel is a real challenge. However, the SaaS wave is too big to ignore and think that suddenly all of this software is going to be sold and supported by the developer of the app.
    At end of the day, contracts are messy. With SaaS, there's not a sku in sight-- its all contracts, which means customization at the deal level....a mess as compared to a buy-for-9-sell-for-10-add-the-services-get-on-down-the-road model that comes with on premise, sku-based apps.

    The way I look at it, Service Providers have had channels forever, right? They might not be SaaS providers, but their XaaS offer is similar enough to take a page out of their channel playbook, which is primarily the page with the word "AGENCY" at the top. There are other ways to do it, mostly dependent on IT support mechanisms that nobody has built yet. IT development cycles, however, are long, and companies are assessing if channels will work, and hence if the IT investment is one worth making.
    SaaS and channels will work, because it has to. Last one to the finish line is a rotten egg.
  • @justinpirie - SaaS Nightmare: Channels - great post! I've found the comments intriguing also - I tend to agree with Kent's view - not so easy to stereotype SaaS
  • Kent Henderson
    disagree. People wrongly seems to put all SaaS offerings into the same bucket just because they are delivered from the cloud vs. purchased and installed on in-house servers. The truth is, all SaaS apps are NOT the same. some require professional services (integration, migration, customization, etc) and some don't. Those that do are particularly interesting to the channel. if its interesting, they'll invest in skills development and be proficient in selling it. Also, if that SaaS app integrates with an on-prem app that this VAR is also selling, you've got a winning Channel opportunity. Their differentiation in these cases is their professional services expertise.

    You compare the web with the channel as sales vehicles. I don't know why you'd do that. One has a salesperson and the other doesn't. You ask "How can we expect a channel to sell it when we can't get it sold on the Web?" I disagree with the premise of that question. Hence, the answer is simple. You can expect different results from the channels because they have salespeople, and the web doesn't.
  • Kent

    You're right- some apps do require professional services, and for that there will always need to be people. But the newer, better designed apps require less and less of this- they automate and make intuitive what used to be delivered by pro services and only deliver high value adding pro services now.

    The problem I have with your assertion is that you work at an established vendor with a very established channel- which is not the case for most of the readers... You might be able to get this model to work but I can tell you from experience that most SaaS companies cant... SaaS companies shouldn't be told that they can move into that sort of position either... that's your competitive advantage and you're not going to give it up easily!

    On-prem / SaaS integration is less of an issue at the low end as it is at the high. In the middle the water is muddy at the moment but I think that will change as more apps get migrated to the cloud. Channel partners have to shift their focus from installing/ integrating/migrating to adding value. Focusing on that keeps them at the bottom of the value chain where they will die.

    So in answer to your last question- the web is the primary channel for 99% of SaaS companies. Because you were part of the first wave, selling low TCO software delivered through the browser, you've got used to selling like enterprise software and now you're owned by a public company, you're tied to their reporting and revenue expectations. This is not what the majority of SaaS companies can and should expect- most often their problem is having poor product/market fit and then expecting the channel to cover up their mistakes...
  • Kent Henderson
    Justin, There are a couple different areas of value-add oppty for partners. One is indeed integration/migration/customization. That may be limited with SaaS, agreed. I'm happy to report that at Cisco, our SaaS apps will require that hands-on work. Enterprise I/M, Email, to name a couple.
    The other value-add is in adding expertise to facilitate the business processes change that the app creates. This is the business consultant work rather than the Engineer work, and I think this is where we have agreement if I'm reading your comments correctly. I also think that this work is the most lucrative. As Technologies become more capable of drastic process change-- and collaboration technologies do this-- there will be growing opportunities to channel partners who can add the consultants to accelerate these changes. This is a huge step for the traditional channel partner.

    Its ALL about business outcomes. Those who can facilitate it-- manufacturers and channel partners alike-- will be the winners.
  • I think we're definitely on the same page there- those who can transition away from being commodity providers to business value adders will win.

    I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed that you happily report your SaaS apps require that sort of work, as I think that'll put you and your partners at a disadvantage in the future, when this sort of function is automated.
  • michaeldunham
    To pile on Lincoln's comment - a service-based channel that embeds the SaaS app in what they deliver is really a match made in heaven for a SaaS company. It takes real thinking to make it happen - but when that works, it becomes a leveraged model. The channel is then incented to both sell the SaaS application and to feed back what would make it even more beneficial to their service offering and their customers.

    On the other side, a pure sales channel play is very hard to make work. The incremental cash in a SaaS sale just doesn't have a lot of pull for a sales channel. Netsuite is trying to solve that problem by rewarding their SaaS sales channel in much the same way they do their normal licenses - but the problem comes with insuring the total lifetime value doesn't exceed the customer acquistion cost or you're bleeding cash everytime you acquire a cusstomer (as you point out). This can happen if the channel is selling but not to a profile that will actually get enough value to keep their subscription over the long run.
  • Spot on Mike!

    I saw the Netsuite announcement after I posted this... That's a really interesting approach- my guess is that they're Customer Life Time Value is about 5 years and they win over the long term but are cash positive after about 14 months. Possibly worth a post on it's own...
  • mschvimmer
    I don't necessarily agree that you have to be able to sell direct over the web. If you look at the majority of the public SaaS companies that sell B2B, they enable you to have a free 30 day demo account but in order to buy they want you to talk with someone live. The web site serves as a critical lead gen engine to fuel direct sales motion.

    With that said, I agree with a lot in this post, especially the compensation issue. If you want channels to participate, I believe you need to give them a cut of the subscription business, not just in the first year but in subsequent years as well.
  • You're right- and as I wrote that I wondered whether I'd be called out on that one... My example was a little bit wonky but I think the point remains valid for most people- public SaaS companies get away with it because they led the transition from Enterprise to SaaS and they had to have the salespeople. Now, they're tied into public company reporting and they can't possibly change those processes. I think the next generation of public SaaS companies will be different.

    Thinking about that point- what about Amazon and Google???

    As I said before, I think the public SaaS companies have trained some bad habits into everyone, just because they were able to spend so much money. They in particular are responsible for the "low TCO client-server application shoved through a browser" issues that instigated the change to SaaS but no longer works.
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