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	<title>Comments on: TWIS#15 Salesforce on SaaS Network Effects and Ecosystem</title>
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		<title>By: Lincoln Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.justinpirie.com/2010/02/twis15-salesforce-on-saas-network-effects-and-ecosystem/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Lincoln Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin... great stuff, as always.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just wanted to comment on the excerpt from Sachin&#039;s post on &quot;Scale Pricing with Customer Success.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since B2B (Enterprise &amp; SMB) SaaS is our specialty at Sixteen Ventures, we have a lot of experience in versioning, bundling, etc.. First, we work with our clients to ensure that they are solving a business problem for their target market. By doing that, we also help our clients realize that when they solve a real business problem, there is a real value put on that by the clients. This means it is very unlikely that SaaS vendors we work with are going to be in the game of competing on price... we don&#039;t want them to be the low-price leader. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of the main things we always tell our clients in an effort to ensure they are positioned in the minds of their target market correctly is to do what Sachin suggests; reward their growth and success. The SaaS vendor doesn&#039;t want to punish the client&#039;s growth. They don&#039;t want to give the client any reason not to continue to use the product as their business grows. In fact, by showing the client that they understand their business and the increasing complexities as they grow, the SaaS vendor further cements in the client&#039;s mind that they are the subject matter experts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, while I agree in principal with what he said, we go a step further and that is to have our clients differentiate the pricing bundles or versions based on value-added features, services, etc. and to avoid &quot;commodity&quot; items like storage, CPU, or even users. Sometimes, for example, users are the key metric that is most aligned with the needs of the client, so it would be foolish to not use that, but often, metrics with little perceived value are used. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By aligning the &quot;step-up&quot; between bundles or versions with the value perceived by the client, the SaaS vendor is in a great position and the client feels great about moving up. They don&#039;t feel forced or bullied which could cause them to churn out and churn is the bitter enemy of revenue. Also, being value-based allows vendors to charge more in many circumstances. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great stuff Justin...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Lincoln</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin&#8230; great stuff, as always.</p>
<p>I just wanted to comment on the excerpt from Sachin&#39;s post on &#8220;Scale Pricing with Customer Success.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since B2B (Enterprise &#038; SMB) SaaS is our specialty at Sixteen Ventures, we have a lot of experience in versioning, bundling, etc.. First, we work with our clients to ensure that they are solving a business problem for their target market. By doing that, we also help our clients realize that when they solve a real business problem, there is a real value put on that by the clients. This means it is very unlikely that SaaS vendors we work with are going to be in the game of competing on price&#8230; we don&#39;t want them to be the low-price leader. </p>
<p>One of the main things we always tell our clients in an effort to ensure they are positioned in the minds of their target market correctly is to do what Sachin suggests; reward their growth and success. The SaaS vendor doesn&#39;t want to punish the client&#39;s growth. They don&#39;t want to give the client any reason not to continue to use the product as their business grows. In fact, by showing the client that they understand their business and the increasing complexities as they grow, the SaaS vendor further cements in the client&#39;s mind that they are the subject matter experts.</p>
<p>So, while I agree in principal with what he said, we go a step further and that is to have our clients differentiate the pricing bundles or versions based on value-added features, services, etc. and to avoid &#8220;commodity&#8221; items like storage, CPU, or even users. Sometimes, for example, users are the key metric that is most aligned with the needs of the client, so it would be foolish to not use that, but often, metrics with little perceived value are used. </p>
<p>By aligning the &#8220;step-up&#8221; between bundles or versions with the value perceived by the client, the SaaS vendor is in a great position and the client feels great about moving up. They don&#39;t feel forced or bullied which could cause them to churn out and churn is the bitter enemy of revenue. Also, being value-based allows vendors to charge more in many circumstances. </p>
<p>Great stuff Justin&#8230;</p>
<p>- Lincoln</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Pirie</title>
		<link>http://www.justinpirie.com/2010/02/twis15-salesforce-on-saas-network-effects-and-ecosystem/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Pirie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again- you&#039;re totally right and I&#039;ll correct it right away.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with you about chatter- I guess my point was Salesforce is the leader- and it&#039;s leading with network effects, so we should take note.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Plus you&#039;re right- it&#039;s a rubbish name- almost as bad as the iPad ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again- you&#39;re totally right and I&#39;ll correct it right away.</p>
<p>I agree with you about chatter- I guess my point was Salesforce is the leader- and it&#39;s leading with network effects, so we should take note.</p>
<p>Plus you&#39;re right- it&#39;s a rubbish name- almost as bad as the iPad <img src='http://www.justinpirie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Justin Pirie</title>
		<link>http://www.justinpirie.com/2010/02/twis15-salesforce-on-saas-network-effects-and-ecosystem/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Pirie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry! What a Muppet! I&#039;ll correct it right away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry! What a Muppet! I&#39;ll correct it right away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abhitam</title>
		<link>http://www.justinpirie.com/2010/02/twis15-salesforce-on-saas-network-effects-and-ecosystem/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>abhitam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@justinpirie - correction - Citrix Online acquired Paglo and not Cisco.&lt;br&gt;The blog post by Marc Benioff is an exact transcription of his Dreamforce speech - almost to the word. Chatter is an interesting spin. My personal belief - Professional collaboration is going to be more social, but I do not think feeds like Twitter are going to make much sense. But there is a tremendous opportunity for SaaS to be part of the professional conversations. How it evolves remains to be seen.&lt;br&gt;Btw, Chatter is not a good name to use for professional conversations ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@justinpirie &#8211; correction &#8211; Citrix Online acquired Paglo and not Cisco.<br />The blog post by Marc Benioff is an exact transcription of his Dreamforce speech &#8211; almost to the word. Chatter is an interesting spin. My personal belief &#8211; Professional collaboration is going to be more social, but I do not think feeds like Twitter are going to make much sense. But there is a tremendous opportunity for SaaS to be part of the professional conversations. How it evolves remains to be seen.<br />Btw, Chatter is not a good name to use for professional conversations <img src='http://www.justinpirie.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steverfrancis</title>
		<link>http://www.justinpirie.com/2010/02/twis15-salesforce-on-saas-network-effects-and-ecosystem/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>steverfrancis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citrix Online acquired Paglo, not Cisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citrix Online acquired Paglo, not Cisco.</p>
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